The Bible and homosexuality, from Gene Robinson

I’ve been reading Gene Robinson’s ‘In the Eye of the Storm’ recently, and came across two pages in particular that made me go ‘YES!’ So I decided to type it up for this site… Hope you enjoy!

  

“So what does the Bible really say about homosexuality? I believe our traditional understanding of the Bible – hence God’s – attitude toward homosexuals is flawed and needs to be reinterpreted.

  

First, the philosophical and psychological construct of sexual orientation is a modern phenomenon. It was only at the very end of the nineteenth century that the notion was first posed that there might be a certain minority of people who are naturally oriented – affectionally and sexually – toward members of the same gender. In biblical times, and until the last hundred or so years, it’s been assumed that everyone is heterosexual, which meant that anyone acting in a homosexual manner was acting “against their nature.” In other words, homosexuals were “heterosexuals behaving badly.” Indeed, many recent evangelical translations of the Bible use the word “homosexual” to translate certain Greek and Hebrew words that may not be related to homosexuality per se, but to sexual exploitation and abuse of underage boys by older men, common in Roman and Greek culture, and to temple prostitution in neighbouring heathen cultures. Yet reading one of these translations using the word “homosexual,” you’d assume that the ancient Hebrew and Christian communities were talking about precisely the same thing we’re talking about today. That’s not the case. You can’t take a twentieth-century word, insert it back into an ancient text, and proclaim that it means something totally unknown to the authors of that text.

   

Second, our understanding of the word “abomination” is different from its original use. According to the Holiness Code in the Book of Leviticus, many things were an “abomination” to God, including the eating of pork. Eating pork wasn’t innately wrong, but abstaining from it was one of the ways Jews were reminded that they were a separate, chosen people. Observing the dietary laws reminded them of this special relationship to God. Jews were also forbidden to eat shellfish, plant two kinds of seed in the same field, or wear two kinds of cloth simultaneously. Tattoos were prohibited; those who cursed their parents were to be put to death. Yet you don’t hear leaders from the Religious Right denouncing these “abominations”.

   

Third, the ancient Hebrews’ understanding of the science of reproduction and sexual activity was different from ours today. Male sperm was thought to contain all of nascent life; the only contribution made by women in the reproductive process was providing a place for the foetus to incubate. So any “spilling” of male seed was considered tantamount to murder. Ancient Hebrews were a small minority, living in a hostile, heathen environment, struggling to reproduce, build up their population, and survive, so any waste of male sperm was antithetical to that survival and synonymous with not only murder, but a betrayal of the national interest. In the same way, masturbation and even coitus interruptus in heterosexual copulation (the so-called “sin of Onan”) were prohibited because they wasted male seed and squandered the possibility of new human life. Today we understand that both sexes contribute to the process of human reproduction, and our day’s problem is over-population rather than under-population. We believe sexuality to have purposes far beyond reproduction. Yet these few verses of scripture are quoted as if nothing has changed in our understanding since biblical times. Note, of course, that all the other references to the “spilling of seed” have been reinterpreted to be acceptable, but not the proscription against same-sex behaviour.”


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I was griping to a friend the other day about the lack of married visible role models for conservative gay Christians. And then, I thought of you guys and felt immensely blessed. I'm so very encouraged by the way you both seek to honor the Lord in your relationship.
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Thanks so much. We’re really flattered to be considered role models. Actually, we have also commented on the lack of gay Christian married role models. In the UK we have Sarah and Rachel Hagger-Holt who recently published the book Living it Out (http://www.livingitout.com, or @livingitoutbook on twitter). I’ve also been reading Gene’s Robinson’s book In the Eye of the Storm recently. He’s such an inspiration in the way that he and his partner have paved the way for LGBT equality in the worldwide church.


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Thanks for your blog. I suppose I am almost a hippy in my belief that we fall in love with people rather than genders.
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Thanks for stopping by! I am inclined to agree with you, because I think I definitely fell in love with Becky’s person, not her gender. But at the same time, I am more attracted to women than men… so maybe it could be a bit of both?


Omission

If you’ve been following our blog for a while, you will know that I (Alison) like to write about theology. And hermeneutics. And marriage equality. And what the Bible says or doesn’t say about being gay. And, as I type this, I’m also preparing that article on marriage in the Bible that I keep telling everyone I’m going to write. But today I wanted to write about something that’s personal to me – my grandparents. I have been fortunate enough to get to know all my grandparents reasonably well, and two, my dad’s parents, are still alive today. However, my grandparents don’t know that I’m gay. They know Becky, but they don’t know that we’re in love. They don’t know that we decided to spend the rest of our lives together, and that we committed to each other in marriage in front of witnesses. They weren’t there. And that is something that I really struggle with.

 

When I first came out to my family, they didn’t think it was a good time to tell my grandparents. In some ways this made sense – my sisters don’t always tell them about their boyfriends, so why should I tell them about my girlfriend? However, it begged the question as to when an opportune time would come. When we got engaged it became even more complicated. My family felt very strongly that my grandparents shouldn’t know – they are approaching 90 and conservative Christians from a reformed tradition. They were worried that it would jeopardise their health, and argued that they wouldn’t consider our civil partnership to be a valid marriage anyway. As I see my grandparents very irregularly (they live across a sea from me), and they don’t even have a computer, let alone facebook, so not telling them wouldn’t affect us living our lives as a gay couple, we had very little leverage in the situation, so reluctantly agreed.

 

Their lack of knowledge has led to some hilarious moments along the way. They attend a war memorial service every year near Cambridge (my granddad was in the WW2 air force), and normally their schedule is so packed that they don’t have time to visit. However, last year their Saturday activities were cancelled at the last minute, and, being at a loose end, they called me up and told me that they were in a taxi and headed towards my house! This was fairly early in the morning, and, it being Becky’s day off, we were still in bed. The next twenty minutes were spent desperately clearing the house of all signs of our marriage, hurriedly getting ready, and cleaning (when Becky gets stressed she likes to clean). Additionally, we were racking our brains trying to figure out how we would explain to them that we slept in the same room, and the same double bed! In the end we closed all the upstairs doors, so that it looked like our tiny study was an extra bedroom, and didn’t offer them a tour of the house! One of our housemates bemusedly observing the chaos commented that he felt like he was in a Woody Allen film.

 

However, there have also been some sad moments. Becky came to stay with my family this past Christmas, but we had to take our engagement and wedding rings off, and pretend that she was just my “friend”. When we were at my grandparents’ house with my family, all my cousins’ husbands were invited to join the family photograph, but my grandparents asked Becky to take the photograph, and nobody stepped up to offer to switch in with her afterwards, or to suggest that we put the camera on self-timer so that she could be included. Even though my grandparents didn’t know any better, it still made us feel that she wasn’t part of the family; that our relationship wasn’t as real as that between my cousins and their husbands.

 

Additionally, we’re very uncomfortable lying to them. They are very fond of Becky, and when we go to visit they make a point of giving her gifts, or inviting her out for meals with the rest of the family. We wonder if they would feel and act in the same way if they knew the truth, or whether they would feel that we had deceived and manipulated them. In some respects I would rather that they had had the chance to hear and decide for themselves how to respond, rather than have it decided for them. If they had learnt about our relationship and chosen not to attend our wedding (as some family members did), at least that’s something that they would have done consciously. As it is, they have missed out on being able to share the most special and beautiful moment in my life, and they didn’t even have a choice in the matter. (Not to mention that we’ve no idea what to tell them if/when children come along!!)

 

During my struggles with this issue, I read a similar story of a gay British Christian in the book ‘Living it Out’ by Sarah and Rachel Hagger-Holt. I’ve copied the whole paragraph here, because it’s fairly similar to my situation, and because reading it gives me hope that somehow my family’s decision may have been for the best. ‘But one debate still rages on – should we tell the grandparents? They’re 92, farming folk, and conservative with both a small and a big “C”. At the moment we’re all fairly convinced it would be better not to say anything – they have met my partner on several occasions and know we share a flat, but just think we’re jolly good chums. Arguably, that’s a closer approximation to the reality of the situation than if we were to tell them we were in a gay relationship, which for them would mean “they’re going to hell”, “they’re living in sin” and “they’re going to get AIDS”. Or are we depriving them of a chance to share in a really important part of our lives?’

 

Normally I end my blog posts fairly conclusively, with my personal opinion on the situation. However, for this one, I don’t really have a conclusion. I’m not sure what I should do about, and even if I knew that I’m not sure what I could do about it! Anybody else got any thoughts?


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You two are absolutely amazing. Your story helped me through one of my toughest times in my depression, I was really upset and confused about homosexuality and Christianity. You helped me become proud of myself, and have the confidence to voice my beliefs willingly. Your love for each other gives me hope and I wish you two the very best. God bless xx
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Thanks so much. We didn’t really have any idea that our stories would have such impact when we first posted them (we just did it for our friends and family to read more about our journeys), but we’ve been blown away from the reactions we’ve got from many who don’t know us around the world! So thank you, and we hope you continue to be proud of your faith and sexuality, and have confidence about how much God loves you.


Weekly Round-up: 22nd May

So in predicting that my weekly round-up would morph into a biweekly or monthly round-up, I was not wrong! Once again, Becky and I have been pretty busy with our studies (I know we make this excuse all the time, but we are both on quite intense degree programmes). So, apologies aside, here are some interesting things we’ve been reading in the meantime…

Hey that’s not really a compromise, by Justin Lee - really made me think about my attitude. If I want to be a bridge-builder, then I have to work hard not to force those who don’t share my beliefs about same-sex relationships to have to compromise by agreeing to disagree with me.

Changing beliefs, by Odd Man Out - asks the interesting question, what would need to happen for you to change your beliefs about same-sex relationships? I attempt to answer from my perspective in the comments.

Hope Remains website - we were given an anonymous tip-off (literally!) to this website by a reader of our blog. I’m very impressed by the depth in which they discuss the Hebrew passages, particularly their take on the Genesis passage, which I hadn’t read in such depth before. I don’t fully agree with all of their theological views, but definitely recommend a read of the site.

Why Christian activism against gay marriage is not very Christian, by David J. Dunn - I’ve read a lot of responses to North Carolina’s recent decision to ban gay marriages, but I chose this one to reblog because I think it really goes beyond this particular debate about a specific amendment, and talks about a Messianic approach to politics.

Reflections - what else does the Bible say that is relevant to the gay debate? by Sandra Delemares - saying a similar thing, but outside the North American context.

5 phrases I think Christians shouldn’t say, by Reluctant Xtian - not specifically about the faith/sexuality debate, although it does get a mention, but just so true about Christian life!


The Weekly Round-up

We read many thought-provoking articles and watch a lot of interesting videos online - some of which we agree with, some we absolutely disagree with, and some we’re not so sure about. Because we’ve made a conscious decision not to fill our tumblr with a lot of reblogs, but we do want to facilitate people reading interesting material, we’ve decided to do a weekly round-up of interesting LGBT and/or faith-related articles we’ve read that week. This may or may not happen every week (the name might change to a biweekly round-up over time), but we’re starting optimistically!


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could you please explain your interpretation of the bible verse that says homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of heaven? I'm really confused and doubting and need help to understand and I would love your opinion/belief on it..
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Thanks for your question (which is referring to 1 Corinthians 6v9), and apologies for the delay in responding. Finally most of my uni assignments are over – yay! It’s a tricky question to answer concisely, because interpretation of this verse really hinges on how they translate the original Greek words ‘malakoi’ and ‘arsenkoites’, which more recent translations have interpreted as ‘men who practice homosexuality’ (ESV), ‘male prostitutes and homosexual offenders’ (NIV), and ‘effeminate and abusers of themselves with mankind’ (KJV). There is a lot of debate about how these words should be translated because their exact meaning in this context is unclear – especially the meaning of the word ‘arsenkoites’, because this is the first ever recorded use of the word. Some people even suggest that Paul made it up himself.

 

Each translation of the Bible interprets these words slightly differently – for a comprehensive list of how a range of different Bibles have translated them, then follow this link. ‘Malakoi’ only appears three times in the Bible – once here, and twice mentioned by Jesus, where he describes the clothes of rich rulers as ‘malakoi’ (Matthew 11v8, Luke 7v25). Other literary texts from the period have suggested that it means either a male prostitute, or a catamite (a boy kept by a child molester). The literal meaning of the word is ‘soft’. ‘Arsenkoites’ is only used twice in the Bible, with the second time being in a similar list in 1 Timothy 1v9-10. Its compound words ‘arsen’ and ‘koites’ mean ‘male’ and ‘bed’, so it obviously refers to some kind of male homosexual activity, but it is not exactly clear what that activity is, and whether it is a generalised, or a specific, condemnation – that is, is Paul condemning people who practice a specific homosexual activity in a specific context, or all gay people, for all time.

 

Side B perspective

The Side B perspective on this verse suggests that the practice of any kind of homosexuality is a sin, but, like other sins, it is forgiven, redemption is granted, and gay people can enter the kingdom of God, as long as they remain celibate. People who subscribe to this perspective suggest that Paul made the word ‘arsenkoites’ up, and combined it with ‘malakoi’ in order to provide a general condemnation of homosexuality in the New Testament by referring to both the passive and active partners in anal intercourse. They point out that Septuagint (the ancient Greek version of the Old Testament which Paul would have been educated in) translates Leviticus 20v13, i.e. the verse that says it is an abomination for a man to lie with another man, using the words ‘arsenos koiten’. So they think that Paul took those terms and combined them, as a continuance of the Old Testament law in the New Testament.

 

On the surface, this sounds like a fairly convincing argument; however, I see some major flaws with it:-

  • If Paul was trying to make up a general term for homosexuality, which would act as a condemnation of all homosexual behaviour for all time, then why did he make up a term that was specific to men? Surely he would also have coined a similar term referring to homosexuality practiced among women?
  • This argument assumes that Paul conceptualised homosexuality as an orientation, rather than a behaviour – i.e. that homosexuals experience continued sexual and romantic attractions to people of the same gender. However, there is no evidence that an ancient Greek understanding of same-sex gender orientation existed, even though same-sex behaviour clearly existed. The word ‘homosexuality’ did not exist before the mid-19th century, and it wasn’t used in a Bible translation until the mid-20th century. Consequently, the use of ‘homosexuality’ as a translation of ‘malakoi’ and ‘arsenkoites’ is an example of how a translator has taken a modern idea, and applied it to an ancient word. It was not what Paul originally intended when writing the text.
  • It also assumes that the Leviticus reference was a general condemnation of homosexuality, when there is actually a lot of evidence to suggest that it was a reaction to homosexual practices in cultic pagan worship rituals, and therefore a specific and contextual reference.

 

Side A perspective

On the other hand, the Side A perspective suggests that Paul was referring to a specific homosexual behaviour in this verse, and that he wasn’t condemning all homosexual behaviour for all time, or saying that people who practice homosexuality couldn’t go to heaven. This is the perspective that I subscribe to, and I believe that, as well as the evidence against the Side A perspective listed above, there is strong evidence to suggest that ‘arsenkoites’ refers to some kind of homosexual power abuse or subjugation. The reason that I believe this is because how ‘arsenkoites’ is used in other Greek literature of the period.

 

Every other recorded use of arsenkoites is in a “sin” list, similar to Paul’s. Scholars have noted that sin lists tend to put words of similar type together. In almost all the lists in which you find arsenkoites (and there are about 80 examples, of which you can read several at the following link) the order of words is very similar – first, there are words referring to sexual sins, (e.g. temple prostitution, adultery), then comes ‘arsenkoites’, then come sins of violence and economics (e.g. stealing, greed, slave-trader, perjurer), and sometimes at the end there are sins of licentiousness (e.g. drunkenness, revelers, foul-mouthed). The positioning of ‘arsenkoites’ is almost always in between the sins of sex and economics, suggesting that it relates to one or both of the two. There are also several examples given by the historian Martin (1996) where arsenkoites is used in lists that are purely related to economics and injustice, with no mention of sexual sins. Combined, these contextual uses suggest that ‘arsenkoites’ is a homosexual act that refers to exploitation or subjugation. The most popular suggestion (also endorsed by Martin, 1996) is that it refers to homosexual slave traders, who would dominate their slaves by forcing them to be the passive partner in anal intercourse.

 

Conclusion

So, we have two main suggestions for what Paul is referring to in this verse. The first suggestion is that he is condemning every type of homosexual behaviour. The second suggestion is that he is condemning a specific type of homosexual behaviour, related to a contextual practice involving exploitation. Of course, the verse doesn’t exist in isolation. If you read the preceding passages in 1 Corinthians, you can see that Paul is instructing the church on how to deal with disputes. He is criticising them, because many church members were taking disputes with other members to the law courts, when they could be sorted out within the church, because it’s a bad witness, and because it’s behaviour that reflects their former selves, and not their new selves in Christ. Then, immediately preceding the sin list, he says something very interesting – “The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers.” (1 Cor 6v7-8) Basically, what he is saying here is that as Christians, we should be more willing to be the victim of an abuse of power, than to exert our power over others. I think that, in this context, and given that many other words in the sin list refer to some kind of power abuse, that the Side A interpretation of ‘arsenkoites’ is a lot more appropriate for the passage than a Side B interpretation.

 

To the question-asker, I hope this has allayed some of your doubt and confusion about the verse. If you want to read more, I would highly recommend Jeramy T’s webpage. It is long and very in-depth, but he is extremely well-read, and has researched all the sources very extensively.


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Just dropping by to say your blog is amazing. I recently came out as bisexual to my parents and they were raised to think homosexual relationships are wrong, so it's a bit difficult. I might give them a link to this blog to read some time! <3
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Thanks! Well done for having the courage to come out, and I hope that you and your parents can come to some kind of understanding on the topic. I think it’s great to give them resources like this website (I also recommend the Gay Christian Network website as it’s set up to provide some support and info for families of LGBT people too). When we were coming out we provided plenty of web links for our friends and family. Don’t get too discouraged if they don’t read things immediately though - everybody takes their own time to process things. We found maybe about half to three quarters of the people we gave links to actually read them, and others processed in a different way.

And more generally to anybody reading: feel free to pass on the link to this blog if you think it would be useful for friends/family. We put it in the public domain with the intention of it being read, and we only post information that we are happy with other people reading.


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You two give me hope
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Thanks :)